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Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on Thu, Feb 15 04:02 PM UTC in reply to [email protected] from Sat Nov 4 2023 10:10 PM:

There will be a part 2, not too far away, believe it or not!!


Ramayana Chess. Chess variant inspired by the Ramayana epic. (Cells: 84) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on Sun, Dec 17, 2023 08:48 AM UTC:

In the description of the pieces it says ...

The 'Shikari' Master of the wilderness. Combines Knight and Alfil (AN).

However, if you look at the Zillions zrf file for this game, done by Peter Aronson, the 'Shikari' moves like a Knight and Dabbaba, the graphic for it is in the style of a 'knight dabbaba' too.

Anyone have info on this, it's interesting because, if this piece is actually a 'knight alfil' combination, it appears to have come just before 'Outback Chess' which has a knight alfil piece, but only days before amazingly, going by webpage date created. They have both come out about the same time.

They both seem to be the earliest use of this piece in a game, the Knight Alfil was mentioned by J.P. Jelliss, in his 'Theory of Moves', 4 January 2001. He called it a 'Hospitaler'

The piece has been around for awhile, the earliest info i have on it is ...

Knight-Fers and Knight-Alfil tours were first given by Abu-Bakr Muhammad ben Yahya as-Suli, born circa 880, died 946 ad. They are reproduced in numerical form in H.J.R.Murray's 'A History of Chess' 1913, p.336.


Chess with Different Armies. Betza's classic variant where white and black play with different sets of pieces. (Recognized!)[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on Sat, Dec 16, 2023 02:18 PM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from 02:08 PM:

Ahh ok, thanks Fergus, interesting to know, much earlier than I thought. Thank heavens Wikipedia wasn't wrong lol.


Amazon. See Amazon. Can move as queen or as knight.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on Sat, Dec 16, 2023 01:40 PM UTC:

Jean-Louis, thanks for your great info on the Amazon!! Some of your details should be added to the page, but, it is in the comments now, at least. You really are a great wealth of knowledge on chess pieces, thanks!!


Chess with Different Armies. Betza's classic variant where white and black play with different sets of pieces. (Recognized!)[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on Sat, Dec 16, 2023 12:22 PM UTC:

I have always thought this game was first created in 1996 by Ralph Betza, however, I notice Wikipedia says this ..

Chess with different armies (or Betza's Chess[1] or Equal Armies[2]) is a chess variant invented by Ralph Betza in 1979.

Is that right.


Amazon. See Amazon. Can move as queen or as knight.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on Sat, Dec 16, 2023 09:11 AM UTC:

It says here ..

'The Amazon was invented (but not under this name) in the middle ages'.

So, where is this info from, do we know the name of it when it was invented.

Also, it appears with the list of games from earliest on record here, first game mentioned is 'Amazon Chess' from Middle Ages, and it is called an 'Amazon'.

Anyways, just wondering if we know the first name given to it.


Fairy Pieces Part 1. Missing description[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
💡📝Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on Fri, Dec 15, 2023 01:27 AM UTC:

Hi everyone, hope you are all fine and well.

Alright, I see I actually said 12 years ago nearly that Part 2 would be out soon, so, omg, I'm so sorry, no excuses, I'm just sorry about that ok!!

Let me just say, 'Part 2' will be coming out. Over the years, work has been done on it. I went through the A to Z of games on this site, so many games, so many different Fairy pieces!! At time's I had to stop, it was overwhelming, so much info, in so many diff places stored on my computer, lol, did I go insane at diff points of time, I think I did!!

I do have time now to work on things, and I am. The problem also was, Part 2 is so big it can't be done in one release. It's like a monster, but I think I know how to do it, it will be done in parts, like, 'Fairy Pieces Part 2, Volume 1'. That is the only way. I will get back to you soon (lol) about when I think it will happen.

Oh, Bob, I see you said 'I don't know where Part 2 would draw its material, but I'd love to see more!'

Part 2 is Fairy pieces from everywhere around the world OUTSIDE of Japan, so, just not Shogi pieces, everything else, meaning, so many pieces of course.

Last thing for now, I have noticed that when I stopped doing Part 1 it was cause of the size of the file, 154 pieces, I actually think there could be a 'Fairy Pieces Part 1, Volume 2' release, but I can't get distracted on that right now.

Alright, just will check Part 2 from what I have right now and work out when it can be done!!

Oh, and thanks must go to Byrne Takeshita here on chessvariants for getting me to feel enlivened to do this!! Thanks so much!!


Grand Chess. Christian Freeling's popular large chess variant on 10 by 10 board. Rules and links. (10x10, Cells: 100) (Recognized!)[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on Sat, Apr 8, 2023 05:26 AM UTC:

I think that promotion rule is the greatest promotion rule of all time lol. That sword you speak of doesn't worry me, that sword is always over my head anyways, if I'm playing a game or not too hehe.


Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on Sun, Apr 2, 2023 07:09 AM UTC:

I think the rule you can only promote to a captured piece is good actually. There are some pretty powerful pieces in this game and this rule prevents an 'overpowering' of the game.

Also, I would say it would be fairly rare to find a pawn promoting before a capture of a piece.

H.G. says 'On the other hand, one could argue that it is a nice tactical dilemma that when you are planning a promotion you should also take care something worthwhile is traded by the time you reach last rank.'

I agree, and it also can lead to interesting play because you could sacrifice a piece knowing that you have a pawn to promote after. Fun times!


Sky ZIP file. Missing description[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
💡📝Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on Fri, Mar 31, 2023 01:46 AM UTC:

Oh, thanks everyone for fixing the page up, thanks so much.

H.G. said ...

I think this page is also misrepresented in the index: it is mainly a rule description; that it also happens to contain a link to a Zillions file is coincidental.

Yes, you are right, I did this page ages ago and for some reason never did a proper game page, and then it got all these nice comments and I just left it like it is. Maybe sometime I could write a proper game page and add if you want to comment on the game to do it on the 'download the game' page, I dunno lol.


Avatar Chess. Game with avatars that can assume any piece of chess, depending on the fields of the board. (8x8, Cells: 64) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on Tue, Aug 30, 2022 12:00 AM UTC in reply to Gerd Degens from Mon Aug 29 07:24 PM:Excellent ★★★★★

Hi Gerd, hope your fine and well. I'm sure you haven't upset or hurt anyone!! I understand what you said, and it is extremely interesting idea indeed how you describe your game about the board etc.

I don't want to go on about the pawns, but still, I have to say, the game would maintain your 'theme' even if the pawns remained pawns. However, the game as you have it must have a unique feel and play to it!

Would be fun to see the game in action.


Enhanced Courier Chess. Courier Chess with the weaker pieces enhanced.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on Mon, Aug 29, 2022 02:41 PM UTC:Good ★★★★

Should play well, it's nice to see you didn't 'overpower' it.


Avatar Chess. Game with avatars that can assume any piece of chess, depending on the fields of the board. (8x8, Cells: 64) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on Mon, Aug 29, 2022 02:25 PM UTC:

It is an interesting idea, though in it's form right now, I think Greg is right, would be hard to see many moves ahead, and also his comment about the pawns.

Pawns make a barrier, they hold the game together, stabilize it. The game would have to be play tested. I feel the game could be good without the pawns being able to change. Pawns should always be pawns, like the King always a King.

But hey, it's your game and I could be completely wrong!! Interesting idea you have, well done.


Abagoren ChessA Zillions-of-Games file
. Old Bulgarian Chess variant for Zillions of Games.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
💡📝Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on Fri, Oct 8, 2021 01:25 AM UTC:

Well, this is kinda weird lol. I notice I am listed as creating the zrf for this game. I'm pretty sure I did not lol. At the 'zillions of games' site is says this ...

Game: Abagoren Chess

Invented 1844 Implemented by Malcolm Webb, 2013-01-19.

No idea why this game is listed in my info!!


Gods on Pluto ZIP file. Plays with extremely weak pieces, no pawns, and drops.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
💡📝Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on Fri, Oct 8, 2021 01:21 AM UTC:

Thanks Ben, great work, and the zip would work, all is good.


💡📝Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on Fri, Oct 8, 2021 12:27 AM UTC:

Alright, I updated by same error message is happening.


💡📝Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on Thu, Oct 7, 2021 08:20 AM UTC:

Thank you for answering.

This game was created in 2006, it worked from creation. Somewhere down the track, for whatever reason, it must of broken. I'll upload file again, thanks.


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Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on Wed, Oct 6, 2021 12:25 PM UTC:

Hi all, thought I would say, from very soon till Christmas and the New Year I should be releasing a few games.

There is a Joy Joyce game, there is a few Charles Gilman games, and I have a game I have done myself, which probably will be the first to come out, and another game by myself that may have some new pieces, amazingly, I say amazingly because they are pretty simple pieces but I cannnot see anywhere that they have been used in any games, but I guess we shall see. I'm sure people will know if they exist elsewhere or not.

Thanks ya'll.


Gods on Pluto ZIP file. Plays with extremely weak pieces, no pawns, and drops.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
💡📝Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on Wed, Oct 6, 2021 12:19 PM UTC:

Hello, sorry, but I asked 2 weeks ago if someone could fix this download link, it doesn't work, is anyone able to do it.


💡📝Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on Mon, Sep 27, 2021 04:14 AM UTC:

Sorry, but the download link for this game doesn't work. Can some great admin please repair, thanks!!


Atlantean Barroom Shatranj ZIP file. Missing description[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
💡📝Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on Sun, May 9, 2021 12:34 AM UTC:

Hi, am I doing something wrong with this game and Grand Shatranj with updating the zip files, it says above it now 'updated' but the zip files are the same still. I went to 'upload or manage files' and deleted old zip file, then uploaded new zip and clicked on 'keep'. This is for this zip here and Grand Shatranj.


💡📝Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on Sat, May 8, 2021 10:07 AM UTC:

Hi, i've also updated this game because of error in 'help', with the Pawn info it said promotion on 8th to 10th ranks instead of 9th to 10th. The error is just in info, not actual ingame play.

Same mistake as other game I posted on just before, lol, sorry.


Grand Shatranj ZIP file. Missing description[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
💡📝Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on Sat, May 8, 2021 10:05 AM UTC:

Hi, I've updated this game because of error in 'help', with the Pawn info it said promotion on 8th to 10th ranks instead of 9th to 10th. The error is just in info, not actual ingame play.


Opulent Lemurian Shatranj. Joe Joyce's Shaman and Hero pieces are now on a larger board. (10x10, Cells: 100) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on Sat, May 8, 2021 04:13 AM UTC:
When you click on the 'Hero' at a1, it can go to c4, and also the War Elephant on d2 can go to f1.
This isn't right is it.

Chess with Different Armies. Betza's classic variant where white and black play with different sets of pieces. (Recognized!)[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on Thu, May 6, 2021 02:46 PM UTC:

I do not know if there is a game with Dabbabarider Fers piece, possible but yeah, I'm not sure. I can't recall seeing one myself.

I never meant for you to change name, I was just giving info. I understand though you might want to change, and Lame Duck is interesting name!!

If I do see a game with the piece I'll let you know.


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