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Kevin Pacey wrote at 01:46 AM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from Mon Mar 18 06:11 PM:

Hi Fergus

The About the Author and Introduction links gave me no problem. However, the Early Attempts at Deriving These Values link caused a White page, i.e. crash.


Kevin Pacey wrote at 01:40 AM UTC in reply to H. G. Muller from Mon Mar 18 04:49 PM:

Hi H.G.

When I type that address into address bar on Safari, I get a White screen, except in the upper left there is 'Hello World!' with some small writing under it. Hope that helps.


About Game Courier. Web-based system for playing many different variants by email or in real-time.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
🕸💡📝Fergus Duniho wrote at 12:14 AM UTC in reply to Jean-Louis Cazaux from Mon Mar 18 10:25 PM:

I don't see how I can do otherwise. I go to Rendering box, I get a menu. I select CSS instead of Table, then nothing change with the diagram.

Of course nothing changes. This is an HTML form that calls a PHP script to redraw the board. If you reload the page, it will just reset the form, which is the opposite of what you are trying to do. For the values in the form to do anything, you must submit the form.

I see no special button to "submit" or something like that, so I reload and the diagram has still small icons and the rendering is back to Table.

Yes, you do see the submit button, but you are overlooking it because it doesn't say "Submit". It is the same button you would use to submit your move. During the course of playing a game, this may be "Preview" or "Move". When viewing a game, it would be "View".

The pieces are about 1/3 in L and 1/3 in h compare to one square dimensions.

I'm looking at it on a small phone, and I see what you mean. While the code I added will fix the display on my desktop, it doesn't fix things when the squares are greatly reduced in size.

"I just told you in my previous comment"

Where?

"Are you using Alfaerie pieces with the Table rendering method? To stop borders from expanding beyond the space a piece is in, this method will now reduce pieces in size just enough to make room for the borders. For pieces with optimized dimensions, such as Abstract, Magnetic, and Motif, this affects only the largest of pieces. But since Alfaerie pieces have uniform dimensions no matter how big the visible image is, they are all reduced in size. If this makes pieces too small for you, you can switch to the CSS rendering method, which does things in a manner better suited for piece images with uniform dimensions."

Since reducing the size of a piece does not work well for spaces that are already reduced in size, I have turned off this behavior when the board is already being displayed at a smaller size. I tested this on the small phone, and the pieces became appreciably larger.


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Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on Mon, Mar 18 10:31 PM UTC:

@Daniel: Biplane and Triplane have the same definition in Greater Tiger Chess.

I suggest you change the name of Aanca to Manticore, or Rhinoceros, but not Aanca to avoid perpetuating this sticking mistake. Aanca is F then R.


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Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on Mon, Mar 18 10:25 PM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from 09:57 PM:

"If you're literally reloading the page, that would be a mistake. You should submit the form and load a new page."

I don't see how I can do otherwise. I go to Rendering box, I get a menu. I select CSS instead of Table, then nothing change with the diagram. I see no special button to "submit" or something like that, so I reload and the diagram has still small icons and the rendering is back to Table.

"I just told you in my previous comment"

Where?

"Are you using Alfaerie pieces with the Table rendering method? To stop borders from expanding beyond the space a piece is in, this method will now reduce pieces in size just enough to make room for the borders. For pieces with optimized dimensions, such as Abstract, Magnetic, and Motif, this affects only the largest of pieces. But since Alfaerie pieces have uniform dimensions no matter how big the visible image is, they are all reduced in size. If this makes pieces too small for you, you can switch to the CSS rendering method, which does things in a manner better suited for piece images with uniform dimensions."

Sorry I don't see where in this text what you have changed and why.

The pieces are about 1/3 in L and 1/3 in h compare to one square dimensions. So too small for me but also too small for anyone with a similar mobile I think.


🕸💡📝Fergus Duniho wrote on Mon, Mar 18 09:57 PM UTC in reply to Jean-Louis Cazaux from 09:39 PM:

If I change and set it to CSS, when I re-load, it comes again to Table with very tiny icons.

If you're literally reloading the page, that would be a mistake. You should submit the form and load a new page.

I don't know what you have changed and for which reason

I just told you in my previous comment.

Anyway, I have modified it to crop images with extra space, and now the pieces are showing up at normal size. The only downside is that the image cropping seems to take a few moments to complete. At least I saw a delay between showing the Black pieces and the White pieces in Chess.

There is also an issue where the spaces increase in height from 50 to 60 when I deselect a piece. I have not figured out why this is happening, but it does seem to be unrelated to my new code for cropping piece images.


Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on Mon, Mar 18 09:39 PM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from 07:35 PM:

Yes the games I'm playing are made with Alfaerie. The rendering method is Table. If I change and set it to CSS, when I re-load, it comes again to Table with very tiny icons.

So I can't play with my mobile. I discovered this this morning. Until that day, I was able to play. I don't know what you have changed and for which reason, but for me it is not good.


Home page of The Chess Variant Pages. Homepage of The Chess Variant Pages.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
🕸📝Fergus Duniho wrote on Mon, Mar 18 08:15 PM UTC in reply to Kevin Pacey from Sat Mar 16 04:05 PM:

I originally got an iphone 11 (since has been updated to be 15, I think).

To check whether the version of iOS might be the problem, I charged up my iPad 2, which runs iOS 9.3.5. Since the iPhone 11 starts with iOS 13 and supports up to iOS 17.4, it is well ahead of my old iPad in what it supports. Using the iPad 2, I tested whether I could reach the site with Safari, Chrome, Opera Mini, Dolphin, and Edge. I could reach it with all of them except Dolphin. In case it was something on the page, I also tried the Ralph Betza page, the hi page, my personal website, and my blog. Of these, only the blog worked. I suspect there is an issue with the DNS server it uses to resolve domain names, though I found no way to change it. When I entered the server's IP address into Dolphin, it did go to the Chess Variant Pages homepage. The only issues with the other browsers were that they didn't recognize this site's HTTPS and required me to confirm that I wanted to see the site, and Dark mode didn't work.


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🕸💡📝Fergus Duniho wrote on Mon, Mar 18 07:35 PM UTC in reply to Jean-Louis Cazaux from 07:18 PM:

On my mobile, Samsung, the piece icons on Game Courier on ongoing games have become very small. Barely visible. I think it was not like that before.

Are you using Alfaerie pieces with the Table rendering method? To stop borders from expanding beyond the space a piece is in, this method will now reduce pieces in size just enough to make room for the borders. For pieces with optimized dimensions, such as Abstract, Magnetic, and Motif, this affects only the largest of pieces. But since Alfaerie pieces have uniform dimensions no matter how big the visible image is, they are all reduced in size. If this makes pieces too small for you, you can switch to the CSS rendering method, which does things in a manner better suited for piece images with uniform dimensions.


Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on Mon, Mar 18 07:18 PM UTC:

On my mobile, Samsung, the piece icons on Game Courier on ongoing games have become very small. Barely visible. I think it was not like that before.


Home page of The Chess Variant Pages. Homepage of The Chess Variant Pages.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
🕸📝Fergus Duniho wrote on Mon, Mar 18 06:11 PM UTC in reply to Kevin Pacey from Sun Mar 17 01:37 AM:

Since the Ralph Betza link worked for you, I have modified the first three links on this page to test what might be wrong.

First, go to https://www.chessvariants.com/d.betza/pieceval/index.html

The "About the Author" link has the header.

The "Introduction" link has the footer.

The "Early Attempts at Deriving These Values" link has the CSS file.

Following the link to each of these files may help narrow down where the problem lies.


@ Bob Greenwade[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Bob Greenwade wrote on Mon, Mar 18 05:00 PM UTC in reply to Bn Em from 04:41 PM:

By which I assume you mean Quintessence? ;‌)

Yes; I'm pretty consistent in getting those two names mixed up. I'll go correct that shortly.

I'm among those who are not so big on the leaping riders, but I'll admit these are pretty cool. And of course sliding analogues (R or B plus chiral qK) are also possible

Probably they'd be chiral qF and qW respectively, making them variants on the Queen. But it's a decent idea.


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H. G. Muller wrote on Mon, Mar 18 04:49 PM UTC in reply to Kevin Pacey from 04:35 PM:

You should not see any search results, because you did not request a search. The confusing thing here is that the address bar is used for two pupropses. If you type a URL there (presumably recognized by containing no spaces, and a number of internal dots) it interprets it as a website address, and goes there. If it doesn't recognize what you type as a URL, it sends it to the website of your defaut search engine (apparently Google), and that will then return search results for your request, which will be displayed with clickable links.

If you get no response, it usually means it cannot even connect to the address that you typed.

The reason I put up that page is that when you also suffer a crash loading that, we can systematically start deleting parts of it until it starts working, and determine that way what the offending part was.

[Edit] I now made a page so simple that it should never cause a problem for any browser, at https://chessvariants.com/hi.html . Check if you can see that.

 


Kevin Pacey wrote on Mon, Mar 18 04:44 PM UTC in reply to Kevin Pacey from 04:35 PM:

I edited my previous two posts in this thread, in case anyone missed it.


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Bn Em wrote on Mon, Mar 18 04:41 PM UTC in reply to Bob Greenwade from Sat Mar 16 02:59 PM:

Other possibilities include replacing one side or the other with a Querquisite ((al) or (ar))

By which I assume you mean Quintessence? ;‌)

I'm among those who are not so big on the leaping riders, but I'll admit these are pretty cool. And of course sliding analogues (R or B plus chiral qK) are also possible


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François Houdebert wrote on Mon, Mar 18 04:38 PM UTC in reply to H. G. Muller from 03:10 PM:

Here are some cobra tests:

  • the same without the tongue
  • another in profile
  • the last one less round, I'd thicken the lines if it's worthwhile


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Kevin Pacey wrote on Mon, Mar 18 04:35 PM UTC in reply to H. G. Muller from 07:38 AM:

@ Fergus or H.G.

I entered the address H.G. gave me in the post I'm replying to, on my phone, this time in Safari's address bar on top of my iphone's screen - this time the search lasted too long, so I hit the back arrow to stop it.


Kevin Pacey wrote on Mon, Mar 18 03:57 PM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from 03:49 PM:

Yes, that's what I think I've been doing. At least, Firefox and Brave, when I use their Icons on my phone, only offer one place/slot to type into when 'searching' - though Firefox immediately shows a small Google logo in the slot area when I start to enter some text for in that slot of its. So, not sure if an address bar is provided at all.


🕸📝Fergus Duniho wrote on Mon, Mar 18 03:49 PM UTC in reply to Kevin Pacey from 03:14 PM:

Not sure how to not involve a search machine.

Do not use the search bar provided on your home screen. Go directly to a browser, then type an URL in its address bar.


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François Houdebert wrote on Mon, Mar 18 03:48 PM UTC in reply to H. G. Muller from 03:10 PM:

Well, I think the existing cobra is okay. I don't know whether to look for a better one or make slight improvements to the existing one.

I'm going to try it out.

Would the existing spiders in the musketeer editor be suitable?


Home page of The Chess Variant Pages. Homepage of The Chess Variant Pages.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Kevin Pacey wrote on Mon, Mar 18 03:31 PM UTC in reply to Kevin Pacey from 03:14 PM:

@ Fergus (or H.G.)

One person I talked to today, that has an iphone, I asked to type in chessvariants dot com, and they said their phone told them that the website could not be found. They told me they used Safari. This was at my home with its Wifi also, and the person is usually busy and often away from home (my Russian landlady, in a fair mood this morning anyway).

edit: note that when I use Google from Safari on my phone, when I try that web address, the crash message is now preceeded by a yellow CVP Logo.


Zen Zebras. Members-Only A team for Chess with Different Armies based around the moves of the Zebra. (8x8, Cells: 64) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]

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Unorthodox Chess. Members-Only Inverting some of the rules of orthodox Chess. (8x8, Cells: 64) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]

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Kevin Pacey wrote on Mon, Mar 18 03:14 PM UTC in reply to H. G. Muller from 07:38 AM:

@ H.G.

When I use Google (from Safari, presumably), typing that address you suggested gives me at least two search results that are fancy links to the CVP homepage - I chose the first one (the second was highlighted as if I visited it already) and a white screen resulted with the usual message implying that a crash was occurring.

Not sure how to not involve a search machine. Brave is the one browser I have on my phone at the moment that I am not at all sure uses any search engine (unless Brave has its own search engine). Sad to say, I know relatively little about mobile phones or even modern computers, still.


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