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Champagne Chess. Chess on a 12x8 board with ferfils and dragons added. (12x8, Cells: 96) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
🔔Notification on Sat, Jan 27 01:31 AM UTC:

The author, Kevin Pacey, has updated this page.


A. M. DeWitt wrote on Fri, Jan 26 04:11 PM UTC:

I assume the orthodox pieces move as in standard Chess? If so, it would be beneficial to say that in the Pieces section.


💡📝Kevin Pacey wrote on Mon, Jan 22 09:15 PM UTC:

To editors: just to be clear, I think this submission is ready.


Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on Mon, Dec 25, 2023 07:01 AM UTC in reply to Kevin Pacey from Sun Dec 24 08:48 PM:

Sorry, I should have been tired. I was confused because in the same time I have been looking at another (interesting) game with Frogs. But yours are with Dragons, sorry sorry. I like your Dragon. Happy Christmas Kevin.


💡📝Kevin Pacey wrote on Mon, Dec 25, 2023 03:18 AM UTC:

To editors: just to be clear, I think this submission is ready.


💡📝Kevin Pacey wrote on Sun, Dec 24, 2023 08:48 PM UTC in reply to Jean-Louis Cazaux from 08:41 PM:

No, the animal pieces in this game are dragons not frogs. Anyway, I wouldn't think of such a thing, my family name being Norman (plus myself being born in France). :)

I should wish you and everyone else Season's Greetings and Happy New Year, before the day is done!


Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on Sun, Dec 24, 2023 08:41 PM UTC in reply to Kevin Pacey from 07:57 PM:

Yes, excellent in your context!

As we are talking about words, in French "campagne", which has the same root than "champagne", means both "country side" and "campaign", the latter having a military sense in some context.

Just a last question: is it the presence of Frogs that let you search for a French name?


💡📝Kevin Pacey wrote on Sun, Dec 24, 2023 07:57 PM UTC in reply to Jean-Louis Cazaux from 07:47 PM:

True. Here's another source for the word Champaign that I had first intended to use (includes the notion of a battlefield); Champagne in one sense meant similarly, it seems, from edit3 in my previous post:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/champaign#:~:text=%3A%20an%20expanse%20of%20level%20open%20country%20%3A%20plain


Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on Sun, Dec 24, 2023 07:47 PM UTC in reply to Kevin Pacey from 06:46 PM:

Well, I don't know why you want something "old" French here.

When I said "champagne is not old French", I meant is not only old French. It is current French, that's what I meant, so no need to say "champagne is old French", just say "champagne is French". Imagine if I say, "York" is old English.

The wiki you mention explains all that very well: Borrowed from French champagne (“sparkling wine from the Champagne region”), from Champagne (“region and former province of France”)

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/champagne


💡📝Kevin Pacey wrote on Sun, Dec 24, 2023 06:46 PM UTC in reply to Jean-Louis Cazaux from 06:24 PM:

Hi Jean-Louis.

I Googled the two spellings of the word long ago and got the meaning(s) and spellings(s), from a source(s) I forgot. If an editor is fussy, I can try to dig up the definitions again. Champagne also is a drink, I think, so I liked it for that reason too. Much as Eric Greenwood enjoyed the deliberate misspelling of his large board 'Renniassance Chess' variant.

[edit1: From Google: "Champaign. 1. extensive tract of level open land. synonyms : field." (Lan Geek)]

edit2: The best I can find for something in Old French at the moment is related to a rather expansive French region's name (the wiki spells it ChampaignE in Old French): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_of_Champagne

edit3: a wiki that calls Champagne Old French (under French: Etymology 2; P.S.: says champagne f (plural champagnes) (rare) an expanse of flat and open cultivated earth): https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/champagne


Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on Sun, Dec 24, 2023 06:24 PM UTC:

Hi Kevin. "Champagne" is not old French. It is well used in modern French for both the luxury sparkling white wine and the region (from which that wine come).

But I don't see why you call your game like this. Why Champagne or Champaign would be suggest a wide board?

Apart from this, this game looks quite nice again.


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