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Chess with Different Armies. Betza's classic variant where white and black play with different sets of pieces. (Recognized!)[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Greg Strong wrote on Tue, Jan 17, 2023 06:37 PM UTC:

@H.G., I've been trying to use Kingslayer/CwDA for playtesting but I have one issue regarding the notation for promotions. I believe the ' should be used to indicate a piece from the opponent's army, but when Kingslayer plays black, it puts the apostrophe on the notation even when promoting to a piece from its own army. I haven't had an opportunity to look through the source code yet.


Aurelian Florea wrote on Fri, Jun 30, 2023 06:20 AM UTC:

I'm thinking about adding an imitator in a chess with different armies environment.

But I don't like the idea of having access to the powers of the opposite armies.

So I came up with the idea of the transferer, which it would be a piece transferes the power of the enemy piece just moved to it's counterpart in the player's to move army.

For example in CC vs NN if white CC have just move a waffle (phoenix) the black NN player would have a fibnif power for the transferer. Any thoughts on this?


Aurelian Florea wrote on Wed, Jul 5, 2023 04:58 AM UTC in reply to Aurelian Florea from Fri Jun 30 06:20 AM:

Nobody curious about this?


Bob Greenwade wrote on Tue, Jul 11, 2023 04:16 AM UTC in reply to Aurelian Florea from Fri Jun 30 06:20 AM:

Intriguing idea, Aurelian. Maybe once we can get the Friend coded in?

Meanwhile, I'm contemplating a back row with one each King, Queen, Candlestick, Knife, Lead Pipe, Revolver, Rope, and Wrench. I haven't quite figured out the XBetza for those last six yet; my intent can be found here. (I hope to build a full-fledged mashup some time in the future.) I have a suspicion that my descriptions may unnecessarily overpower the FIDE set. (Maybe a Wazir instead of a Queen?)

PS: I'm quite fond of the Lame Duck and Half-Duck from the Sliders set, and the Dragon Fly from the Dragons.


Aurelian Florea wrote on Tue, Jul 11, 2023 11:02 AM UTC in reply to Bob Greenwade from 04:16 AM:

@Bob Greenwade

O don't see the connection between the friend and what I had proposed!


Bob Greenwade wrote on Tue, Jul 11, 2023 03:23 PM UTC in reply to Aurelian Florea from 11:02 AM:

I was thinking of the Friend as one who could copy the moves of a friendly piece guarding it; conversely, the Orphan copies the moves of an enemy piece attacking it. With modifications, that might be able to do what you're thinking of.

Unless you're thinking of combining move borrowing with relay, or something like that.


Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on Sat, Dec 16, 2023 12:22 PM UTC:

I have always thought this game was first created in 1996 by Ralph Betza, however, I notice Wikipedia says this ..

Chess with different armies (or Betza's Chess[1] or Equal Armies[2]) is a chess variant invented by Ralph Betza in 1979.

Is that right.


🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Sat, Dec 16, 2023 02:08 PM UTC in reply to Christine Bagley-Jones from 12:22 PM:

1979 is the date of invention recorded in our database. Betza’s games became better known in the 90’s thanks to the arrival of this website,but he is from an older generation and did not wait for the arrival of the web to start creating chess variants.


Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on Sat, Dec 16, 2023 02:18 PM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from 02:08 PM:

Ahh ok, thanks Fergus, interesting to know, much earlier than I thought. Thank heavens Wikipedia wasn't wrong lol.


HaruN Y wrote on Wed, Apr 24 12:08 AM UTC in reply to H. G. Muller from Sat May 15 2021 07:06 PM:

How about switching Diamonds & Onyxes?


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