Comments by BobGreenwade
I suspect the last; I have two rules pages (Monster Mash and Xodohtro Chess), two GC presets (Hundred Acre Chess and Food Fight), and a Piececlopedia article (Okapi) waiting to be published.
I can go for Wazbaba as a name. It's fun to say! :)
...maybe different for those who keep up records on what is the Queen's English, if it's still called that now that Charles is King.
It would now be the King's English. Queens English is now spoken mainly by Fran Drescher.
Furthermore, I currently don't like the sound of Wazbaba somehow - call it a quirk of mine.
That's probably the most compelling reason of all to not use that name. (And remember, I happen to like the name quite a bit.)
My idea: because you call FA the Modern Elephant, I call WD the Modern Dabbaba, or better Modern War Machine.
I'm very tempted to call it a Washer/Dryer.
Concerning WD I call it War Machine, or simply Machine. Several decades ago (I'm a veteran), I was calling it War Machine as it is to the Dabbaba the same thing that (my) Elephant is to the Alfil (the translation vs the old Arabic word). Some are saying "Modern Elephant" to be explicit, so I would agree with Lev to say "Modern War Machine" or simply Modern Machine.
I think most of us can agree in principle that Modern War Machine can be conisdered the "conventional" name for the piece, even if other names are used to fit various themes and tastes. Even so, for this game, as much as I'd prefer to see it be the Wazbaba or MWM, I think Kevin's justified in leaving it as it is if he really, really wants to.
The case which upsets me is Aanka used for W-then-B. But I will stop saying it. Now everyone knows this story and may decide whether it is a good idea or not to use this name. I am tired to argue with those who are purposely not understanding. They can call Aanka what they want, and why not call the Rook an Obispo if they like.
A fuller discussion would be better served elsewhere, but for my own part the Aanca is both W-B and F-R -- the compound of Manticore and Griffin.
@Bob: "for your own part"? I don't know where you got that. I never saw this. I have seen "Godzilla" as compound of W-R and F-R. Here by Ivan Derzhanski.
I got it from combining the historical version with the (multilply repeated) erroneous version. You haven't seen this, because the only page I have it on is still Private (and probably will be for some time). And I'm very resistant to recognizing the name of a Copyrighted/Trademarked character as the "conventional" name for a piece.*
But I say "for my own part" because I don't expect anyone (at all) to follow along.
*Except, of course, when the piece predates the character, or the name is arrived at another way. Since the word gojira was literally coined for the first movie, the piece was clearly named for the character.
It would be easier if the vulture's description specified which paths it is allowed to follow. Maybe I'm the only one this is unclear to.
Hopefully the little bit of text I just added helps, at least a little.
That looks like my Viking up there. :)
Whilst I'm not as hardline as Jean‐Louis regarding ‘Aanca’ (for better or worse, it did build up a small history of use for W‐then‐B and imo at least in the context of variants from that time retains a little validity), I fail to see the wisdom in compounding the confusion (especially with an already‐controversial name) by assigning it to yet a third (especially so closely‐related) piece. If not ‘Godzilla’ for Gryphon+Rhino, there's always Gilmanese ‘Gorgon’ (used also by Frolov)
That works for me. I'll go edit that note presently.
And once again... I'm dropping Aanka.
290. Threeleaper. This piece is one that I had assumed was purely a problemist's piece (or a piece used only as part of a compound, such as the Frog) until I learned that it apparently is used in a version of Tamerlane. Said version isn't on this site, so I don't know how well it works in practice, but given that it can only reach about 11% of the squares on a board (at most) it's probably not impressive.
Its move is simple: it leaps three squares orthogonally. (H)
Like I say, it can have some value; just not a lot. (Still, I was surprised when I found that I hadn't already posted it.)
Such a straightforward piece deserves a straightforward model. (And of course you can easily imagine what the Fourleaper and Fiveleaper would look like!)
In other news, I'm told that the problem I was having with Thingiverse's editor has been patched up as of last Tuesday. I haven't tested it out yet; I probably will do so over the weekend.
I think I've mentioned in our game chat why I prefer KNAD (or, to me, KNS) for the Lion: it does at least have some history. I don't know of anywhere else where a Lion is BNS. (Even so, if it had an adjective on the name, reflected by a compound in the Greenwade graphic, I could deal with it.)
It would be an interesting challenge for someone to make an Interactive Diagram for this variant.
Pushing does appear in other games, of course (a couple of pieces in my own Zwangkrieg do it), but I don't think I've ever seen the idea applied as uniformly as this, nor explained as neatly, clearly, and elegantly. It makes me wish that there was a simple code one could add into XBetza for doing it.
Is there a way to enter XBetza on this? I wanted to try out the Blue Gecko (frB4lbW2flFbrFfW) but I can't limit the B move to 4 on this diagram.
291. Señora (Argentinian Queen) and 292. Saltador (Argentinian Knight). I actually was getting something else ready for this weekend, and then realized that I'd already uploaded another version of it, so here are two pieces that go with the Faro and Loco from two weekends ago.
To refresh, the Argentinian sliders capture like the conventional pieces, but must jump over another piece in order to move without capture. The Faro (Rook) does this orthogonally and the Loco (Bishop) does it diagonally, so naturally the Señora (Queen) does both. (cQmpQ)
The Saltador (Knight) is a slightly different story. It moves like a normal Knight, particularly when capturing, but can only move without capturing if at least one of the two spaces it's jumping past has a piece in it. (cnNpafsmK)
The Saltador looks a little weird, but then again most of my "enhanced Knight" pieces look weird because the enhancements are meant for symmetrical pieces, which Knights are not.
If I could try it with a Peacekeeper (AXNX) I think that might have a higher number.
293. Three-Toed Sloth. As of this writing, fellow CVP user Bn Em has found the piece that would take the longest to force checkmate against a bare King, with only a King's help, and after looking at a diagram of its move I decided that it deserved a name, and probably some use in a game somewhere.
The choice of move is quite complex: it moves one step directly forward, or diagonally backward and to the right; or leaps two spaces diagonally forward and to the right, or backward and to the left; or leaps two spaces forward and one to the left; or makes one or two leaps of two spaces directly forward. (fWbrFfD2lfNfrblA)
Extra points (and, of course, due credit) to whomever can come up with a good name for fWblFfD2rfNflbrA (to go with this piece the way I created the Purple Finch to go with Adrian King's Blue Gecko). I think they'd be a fun addition to my Kagamigi games.
That's a rather fearsome-looking sloth, and probably needs a bit of reworking; I only just modeled it yesterday, and arguably didn't give it the time it needed (and that I normally give a piece like this) to really look right.
That's a possibility, if I can find a way to differentiate the piece from the regular Turtle (the move for which I still need to edit).
What's the game under discussion here? (I'm seeing this discussion on the Sign In page.)
294. Cerberus. There are multiple ideas of what Cerberus would be like as a chess piece; I figure that the Cerberus move should be triple that of a Dog. However, I've found two versions of Dog, one from large shogi variants and the other by Musketeer Chess (both of which I should post sometime soon; I thought I already had). I decided to base Cerberus off the latter.
The Musketeer Dog (which I like to call Big Dog) has a move of one space sideways or three spaces diagonally; that would give Cerberus a move of three sideways and nine diagonally. The latter seems enough that it might as well be a slide. (BsW3)
I think it would be interesting to see how existing games with their own version of Cerberus would fare with this in its place.
Modeling Cerberus as a chess piece is hard; mine isn't the only attempt at it. I think it does the job, though.
Basically, everything remains the same, but you can push multiple pieces with a single move instead of just one. You'll be amazed at how this single change not only increases the complexity but also enhances the enjoyability of the game.
I was thinking of calling it Zero Gravity Chess, abbreviated as 0G, but I'm still not sure about the name. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
That's actually a feature (at least, very similar) I wanted to give the Barbell for my Clue variant. I felt like the XBetza would've been prohibitively complex — not that XBetza has any bearing on a game with up to eight players, of course, but I'd want to have the piece available to other games.
BTW, in case anyone cares enough to wonder, I decided on the Axe for the eighth weapon in Clue Chess.
I was thinking of calling it Zero Gravity Chess, abbreviated as 0G, but I'm still not sure about the name. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Zero Gravity Chess does seem to me like a good name for a 3D version of this. My ideas for this:
- Archimedes Chess
- Sliding Puzzle Chess
- Pushover Chess
An interesting group! I'd probably use different names and icons for the Bishop and Rook pieces, but to each his own.
Perhaps Archimedean Banzai, or Domino Banzai?
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