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Chess according to Zillions: Q=7.6 R=4.6 B=3.2 N=2.7 P=1 Shako according to Zillions: Q=8.9 R=5.6 B=3.6 N=3.0 P=1 C=5.5 E=2.9 Xiang Qi according to Zillions: R=5.4 C=5.35 Chess : Q=9 R=5 B=3.3 N=3 P=1 XiangQi : R=12 C=6 H=5 E=3 F=2 P= 1 or 2 (before or after crossing the River) -- so Zillions is very wrong about R=C. Cylindrical Chess: R=B (two eight-square files) -- colourboundness doesn't matter. Zillions should be right about N=E (eight squares) for Shako. I would add something for the Cannon and substract something for the Queen because a Cannon is as dangerous as a Knight to a Queen (and an Elephant isn't, by the way). So, Q=10 R=5.5 C=4 B=4 N=3 E=2.8 P=1 in the opening. Q=10 R=6 B=4 C=3 N=3 E=2.8 P=1 in the midgame. Q=10 R=6.5 B=4 N=2.5 E=2.5 C=2 P=1 in the endgame (if the Pawn isn't particularly strong, of course).
anyone know/care to estimate piece values for this game?
This game looks to be well thought out. I am pleased to see the re-unification of the game as it is perceived through both eastern and western eyes. Each stands to gain something from the other. I am glad it was submitted to the 3rd Courier tournament. Thanks also to Hans B. for the translation from the French.
This is essentially chess with cannons and elephants added. It appears to play rather well. I like it a lot.
However; in my in-progress game my opponent has 2 light-squared Bishops and no Dark-Squared Bishop. I have one of each. The reason is that when the game begins Black has a Bishop on h9 and a Knight on g9. By the rules this is wrong.
The pre-set needs to be corrected so that the initial setup has a Bishop on g9 and a Knight on h9. Of course, players can manually fix this when they begin a game, but like me, many may assume a correct setup is present and not notice the error for the first few moves.
Jean-Louis Cazaux has created a most interesting game with cannons and (modern) Elephants. I am presently working on an 8x8 variant which also has cannons in the four corners.
Shako is also a term of Hungarian origin meaning a tall, usually plumed, cylindrical cap. As this is part of some historic army uniforms it is an appropriately military name for such a game.
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Unicorn=10, Queen=10, Chancellor=9, Rook=5.5, Lion=4.5(?)
Bishop=3.5, Knight=3, Elephant=2.5, Pawn=1
are endgame piece values (for Shako and Unicorn Great Chess) which preserve some formulas I firmly believe in, namely Q+P = R+R and Q = R+B+P and R+P = B+N. The Cannon should be worth 4 Pawns at the start of the game, but decline to half the value of a Rook in the endgame (2.75 Pawns). I consider short range pieces to have more value than Antoine Fourrière gives them in his Comment. Even the lowly Ferz should be worth 1.5 Pawns on a 10x10 board. EDIT [March 2007] I decided to bump the Lion up to 5 full points. The Ferz still looks good to me.