Comments by CarlosCetina
Okay, following your instructions, I was finally able to run the program. It's wonderful! 106 chess variants available!
Congratulations Greg. You have done an excellent job.
Thanks again for all your support!
Hi Greg.
Unfortunately the problem persists.
I must tell you that I am now using a new recently purchased HP laptop, whose main specifications are:
Model: 14-cm0026la
Name: LAPTOP-M9SUMFI7
Processor: AMD A4-9125 RADEON R3, 4 COMPUTE CORES 2C+2G 2.30 GHz
Installed RAM: 4.00 GB (3.88 GB usable)
Operative System: Windows 10 Home (1903 version)
When I double click on ChessV.exe, a window pops up saying "Fatal Error. Directory of piece set graphics could not be found. Please re-install ChessV."
After re-downloading http://chessv.org/downloads/ChessV2.2RC2.zip and following the whole process to run it, I get the same outcome.
If I double click on ChessV.Engine, then it pops up a window with a black background, a blinking cursor and a header saying "C:\Users\Carlos\Downloads\ChessV2.2RC2\ChessV2.2RC2\ChessV.Engine.exe"
What's going on?
I have just updated this page by adding a link to the preset programmed by Greg Strong. So, from now on I start using it.
Thanks Greg!
Hi Greg:
Bad news. I followed your instructions completely but cannot run the app. Now the emerged window had a black background, no text and there was only a blinking cursor; the window header said:
C:\users\Carlos\downloads\ChessV2.2RC1\ChessV2.2RC1\ChessV.Engine.exe
Out of curiosity, I tried to do the same thing I did with Nebiyu, that is, to run it with WinBoard but the action was stopped.
It seems that I have no choice but to wait for the new ChessV version.
Thank you very much for all!
Greg:
I reloaded ChessV2.2 again and, trying to run it, a window was opened saying:
System.NotSupportedException: An attempt was made to load an assembly from a network location, so the assembly would have been included in an isolated space from previous versions of .NET Framework. This version of .NET Framework does not enable the CAS directive by default, so this load can be dangerous. If this load is not going to include the assembly in an isolated space, enable the loadFromRemoteSources modifier. See http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=155569 for more information.
A smaller window said:
The program stopped working correctly due to a problem. Windows will close the program and notify you if a solution exists.
Then I loaded your program one more time by using another PC (also with Windows 10) and the result was the same error message.
So there is no doubt that whoever has the problem is me. And to think that I was so excited because I was going to try Symmetric Chess vs an engine!
Thank you, H.G., for the explanation and directions. I could already run Nebiyu properly but unfortunately... playing chess it defeats me easily!
OK, I already downloaded Nebiyu 1.45 and unzipped NebiyuAlien; then double clicked on NebiyuAlien.exe and a window was opened but everything is black; there is only one blinking cursor; the window header says:
C:\Users\Carlos\Downloads\Nebiyu\NebiyuAlien.exe
But now I don't know what to do.
There is Fairy-Stockfish, which is very much worth having. But it is not an independent app that goes accompanied with an installer. Just something you unzip in a folder of your choice, after which you have to point WinBoard to the executable through the Load Engine dialog, so that it can use it as an engine.
The same holds for Nebiyu, which is not as strong as Stockfish, but rather easy to configure for playing new chess variants.
Thank you very much for the info. Of the two, attracts me more Nebiyu. I'm somewhat confused on how to proceed with the installation because I don't see any link that be unique and clearly says "download". There are these 4 links:
Could you, please, tell me which of them to click?
Do you know what version of Windows 10 you are using?
I'm using Windows 10 Home, 1903 version, operative system version 18362.476, installed on 14/Oct/2019.
My PC is a Compaq Mini CQ-1100, Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N2600, 1.60 GHz RAM.
Go in to the EnginesXBoard folder and delete everything underneath and then try running ChessV.exe again?
I already did it but the problem persists: no error message is issued nor the system crashes, it simply behaves as if nothing had happened.
In order to determine the cause there are 2 steps:
1) To install ChessV2.2 in other computer with Windows 10 Home .
2) To install in my PC another app.exe
For the second, I would be grateful if you, Fergus, HG or anyone else tell me of any program (preferable of chess or chessvariants) that I could download.
Greg:
When I double click on ChessV.exe it appears a window asking me if I agree the app makes changes in the device. After clicking "yes" NOTHING HAPPENS. It's disconcerting why does WinBoard 4.8.0 works while ChessV2.2 doesn't.
HG:
I already learned to drop pieces in Seirawan Chess. Thanks!
Greg:
The same day you pre-released ChessV 2.2 I downloaded it but it does not work.
Recently I upgraded the OS from Windows 7 to 10. Save by the button sizes issue I still can run ChessV 2.1
I have archived the ChessV 2.2's 10 elements: 3 folders, 5 extensions and 2 apps, but Windows 10 may require programs to include an installer.
By contrast, some days ago I downloaded H.G. Muller's WinBoard 4.8.0 and I can run it perfectly; its logo appears listed in the Start Menu while the one of ChessV 2,2 doesn't, but the ChessV 2.1 logo yes appears listed.
I will look forward to the official release with installer included!
HG:
I will try to configure the Interactive Diagram as you say using the Bishop image for both Dragon Horse and Wazir.
Regarding WinBoard 4.8.0, I don't know how to drop the Hawk and the Elephant playing Seirawan Chess against the Fairy-Chess engine. After moving a piece, no menu appears asking you to choose which piece you want to drop. Could you, please, help me?
Thanks for your reply, HG.
What I'm looking for is an engine or computer program that allows me to analyze Symmetric Chess games with the idea of publishing them on YouTube, for which it would be very useful to have teaching resources such as those before mentioned: arrows, highlighting squares, etc.
I think I could use the Interactive Diagram but I feel a bit unpleasant the fact that on the starting setup appear Dragon Horses instead of Bishops. Would it be possible to implement the Bishops Convertion Rule without the intermediation of neither Dragon Horses nor Wazirs?
HG:
Your Interactive Diagram is undoubtedly an excellent resource to show easily the various ways of moving pieces.
Given your obvious computer skills, I wonder if you could develop a software that serve as support when analyzing chessvariants games just like many bloggers do with standard chess; features such as arrows indicating piece movements, highlighting squares of threatened pieces, soon return to the basic position after seeing one or more variants. For example, please take a look at this YouTube video.
I mean to add said features to the Interactive Diagram. Or are they more typical of a video editor software?
Greg:
I have been testing your preset and find it 100% OK, everything is working nice, but I would like to ask you a special favor: change its appearance by cloning the preset that I'm currently using whose URL is
https://www.chessvariants.com/play/pbm/play.php?game=Symmetric+Chess&settings=default
and its appearance is
You know, it's something very simple: copy the code from your preset and paste it on the mine; then edit the clone with your userID and the settings name you like.
Note that in the Pre-Game box there is a line of code saying:
remind Watch Symmetric Chess games at www.youtube.com/channel/UCGEF6o8z5oW-OZlaat-Lqkg;
I use it to advertise my Youtube channel as a mean of attracting players.
The underlying reason to change the appearance is that blue pieces stand out better on an orange background than on a brown one; the same applies to the lines used to highlight the squares of origin and destination of the moves.
This is evident by comparing a whole sequence of movements.
Video with cream/brown background.
Video with cream/orange background.
Thank you very much for your support!
Thanks, H.G., for your posting. I will comment something later. Rightnow I'm leaving home.
Okay, Greg, sorry for the misunderstanding. Thousand thanks and good luck!
Greg:
I appreciate very much the effort you make to reinforce the rules of the Symmetric Chess preset, however I wonder if using the preset you suggest will not be more confusing for some people than if we used the entirely uncoded one.
I don't know; it's just a presumption, a guess. In my personal case, I would play without problems with any of those two options.
Certainly, coding the Bishops Conversion Rule is a tremendous challenge.
Hi Greg:
The wording is from Hans based on the info I sent him by email and I admit that it can be somewhat confusing because I really had not considered the possibility that you refer until Mike Nelson pointed out it in a comment wrote on Oct 21/2002.
My answer is that said remaining bishop would have FREE CHOICE to be converted or moved normally according to the color of the square in which it is placed.
Hi Greg,
I could already make the move.
Thank you very much!
Greg:
I think we could start the next round since the result of my Colossus game vs Fergus is practically decided, regardless of the bug in the preset program.
Fergus:
To help you spot the bug that is in our Colossus game here is part of the program:
Syntax Error on line 673
658 MOVE: r i3-j3 659 postauto2 660 moveindex 146 661 MOVE: B h1-j3 662 postauto1 663 moveindex 147 664 MOVE: q g3-j3 665 postauto2 666 set posvar join "b" join fencode boardflags 667 if >= var #posvar 3 668 say Three Times Repetition! Drawn Game! 669 drawn 670 elseif sub stalemated #K 671 if sub checked #K 672 say Checkmate! Black has won! 673 won: else: say Stalemate! The game is drawn. 674 drawn 675 endif 676 elseif >= #nopvc 100 677 say Fifty Moves Without Moving a Pawn or Capturing! Game Drawn! 678 drawn 679 elseif sub checked #K 680 say Check! 681 endif 682 end
I understand the problem is the two points after the "won" word.
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You are welcome, Greg. Let's follow playtesting your masterpiece! Have you thought about developing a ChessV app for mobile devices, tablets and phones?
Those who are participating in the current tournament and are playing Symmetric Chess for the first time maybe might be interested in seeing how ChessV manages the matter.