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Seenschach. Variant on 10 by 10 board with lake in the middle and new pieces. (10x10, Cells: 84) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
H. G. Muller wrote on Fri, Oct 27, 2023 08:41 AM UTC in reply to Bn Em from Tue Mar 9 2021 09:55 PM:

Now that parentheses are introduced in XBetza for indicating repetition of legs, the Harvester can be described as Wafs(az)7W.

Even the Reflecting Bishop seems possible: (oyabyas)11B. In the non-final legs this moves the Bishop to just beyond the edge (o), toggles range (ya) to retrace the latsest step (b) to get back on board, and then continue sideways (s) as a slider again by a second range toggle for the next diagonal leg. Only a single sideway direction should be available at this time, as it would be on an edge square. This procedure then can be repeated as many times as it is allowed to reflect.


H. G. Muller wrote on Fri, Oct 27, 2023 09:30 AM UTC in reply to H. G. Muller from 08:41 AM:
files=10 ranks=10 promoZone=1 promoChoice=HMGBR graphicsDir=/graphics.dir/alfaeriePNG35/ squareSize=35 graphicsType=png symmetry=mirror theme=OS firstRank=1 borders=0 useMarkers=1 stalemate=win hole::::d4-g7 lia pawn::fsmWfceFifmnDifmnH:chinesepawn:a2-j2 reflecting bishop::(oyabyas)11B:/graphics.dir/alfaerie/%reflectingbishop.gif:d1,g1 boyscout::zB:/graphics.dir/alfaerie/%crookedbishop.gif:c1,h1 genscher::N[W?DD]:chancellor1:a1,j1 harvestman:M:Wafs(az)8W:cardinal1:b1,i1 hornet::zBWafs(az)8W:falcon:f1 king::K::e1

HaruN Y wrote on Fri, Oct 27, 2023 11:22 AM UTC in reply to H. G. Muller from 09:30 AM:

Interactive Diagram seems to slightly undervalue zB.


H. G. Muller wrote on Fri, Oct 27, 2023 08:00 PM UTC in reply to HaruN Y from 11:22 AM:

Interactive Diagram seems to slightly undervalue zB.

Well, I don't know. I don't think I ever measured the true value of the zB. The algorithm for guestimating piece values doesn't always get it right. E.g. BN is also underestimated. What is worse, I am not even sure it guestimates it on the correct board. In particulare whether it takes the 'holes' into account when determining the average number of moves. I suppose the piece values could strongly depend on that. E.g. a normal Bishop wouldn't be worth much on the Seenschach board, but if it estimates it the same as on a normal 10x10 board... This at least is something that should be easy to correct.


💡📝Jörg Knappen wrote on Sat, Oct 28, 2023 12:07 PM UTC:

@H.G.Muller Thank you for the interactive diagram!


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