[ Help | Earliest Comments | Latest Comments ][ List All Subjects of Discussion | Create New Subject of Discussion ][ List Latest Comments Only For Pages | Games | Rated Pages | Rated Games | Subjects of Discussion ]Comments/Ratings for a Single Item Later ⇩Reverse Order⇧ Earlier Ruddigore Chess. Chessgi variant where you can capture your own pieces, and every other turn you must capture or sacrifice a piece. (8x8, Cells: 64) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating] 💡📝Peter Aronson wrote on Tue, May 14, 2002 04:56 AM UTC:I am convinced! The last paragraph of the <b>Notes and Comments</b> section now contains the suggested terminology. gnohmon wrote on Tue, May 14, 2002 01:49 AM UTC:'Seems to me that Basingstoke indicates a temporary mitigation of the situation, not a permanent cessation;' Wonderful. Supposed to be chess variants and here we are sitting around discussing the deeper meaning of Basingstoke. All praise to Meander, the god of Usenet thread drift, but the great thing is that Basingstoke is totally on-topic for this CV! Using Basingstoke as the official verbiage for a draw offer avoids introducing any new rules that affect the play of the game; and it is only a temporary thing because it is assumed that one might start another game. John Lawson wrote on Sun, May 12, 2002 12:31 PM UTC:Most logically, 'Basingstoke' could be used to force ones opponent to vary his move in a perpetual check or draw by repetition situation. This would hardly have a broad application. Perhaps some mechanism could be added, allowing one player to force the other to withdraw a move under some circumstances. To keep it under control, this could work like doubling in backgammon, where once you use the option, you can't do it again until your opponent has. Maybe could work like that more exactly, where you could compell a move to be taken back, but the value of the game doubles each time it's done. 💡📝Peter Aronson wrote on Sun, May 12, 2002 06:07 AM UTC:Seems to me that Basingstoke indicates a temporary mitigation of the situation, not a permanent cessation; thus Basingstoke seems to me to be inappropriate for an offer of a draw. However, 'Beware! Beware! Beware!' is a perfectly good way to declare check. gnohmon wrote on Sat, May 11, 2002 02:40 AM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★Two 'excellents' because i love the way it's written up. The idea of going back to the source of the play to justify the alternate-move requirement is excellent as well. Perhaps I should have made this line a separate comment for 3 'excellent's. gnohmon wrote on Sat, May 11, 2002 02:36 AM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★The fault is mine but the credit yours. It's easy, and it's fun, to toss out a 'brilliant' idea for a strange CV in an offhand remark, but to actually make it work, that can sometimes be hard work. One criticism. and one only: Basingstoke. Where is it in the rules? I suggest that in order to offer a draw one must say 'Basingstoke'. In the same vein, should one wish to announce check (not required by the current laws of FIDE Chess), one should say 'Beware! Beware! Beware!' (((((((((((((( it just occurred to me in a 17th level digression tat the actor who delivers this line is usually anything but gaunt. ))))...))) 'Inky clouds like funeral shrouds sail over the midnight skies' -- isn't that some of the finest poetry in musical theater (second only to 'svani' per sempre un sogno d'amore')? Just like the chessboard in my head, I have a record player in my head, and Ruddigore Chess has moved me to put that platter onto the turntable of my mind; and for this if nothing else it would deserve an excellent rating. It is said that one's favorite G-and-S opereta is always the one most recently attended (exception being perhaps the overperformed but excellent Pirates -- NYGASP recently gave my lifetime best Pirates, far exceeding DC in London (and please note: if you know Pirates you gotta see Il Trovatore!!)). Listening to Ruddigore again, what a pleasure, and the theme of G-and-S Chess, well, hey, what's next? I once hitchhiked to Penzance from Stonehenge, and although of pirates I saw not one there, yet I wait in breathless anticipation for Pirates Chess. With different armies, no less. Instead of Bishops, the Pirates have a Pair of Docs, Doctor Einstein and Doctor Schweitzer (unless you despise Marxism), the Q is a nursemaid, and Frederick is a semi-neutral piece who, being the Slave of Duty, can belong to either side according to the argument most recently presented. John Lawson wrote on Thu, May 9, 2002 04:55 AM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★Hey! I'm as innocent as a kitten! I wasn't even there! And if I was there, I didn't do it! And if I did it, I was lead astray by evil men! 7 comments displayedLater ⇩Reverse Order⇧ EarlierPermalink to the exact comments currently displayed.