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Roberto Lavieri wrote on Tue, Aug 26, 2003 05:06 AM UTC:
I think someone has accepted my invitation, the log ASTERTEST is on, but I
have not received notification e-mail yet, so I don´t know the URL and
steps to follow for begin the game. I´ll see tomorrow if the mail was sent
to my office, I don´t have access to it from here. If not, I´ll notify the
fact to see what happened.

Roberto Lavieri wrote on Tue, Aug 26, 2003 02:28 PM UTC:
Well, I don't know if I am playing Asterix or not. The log is on, but I
have not been notified if my invitation was accepted or not. It was an
open invitation, but with priority to the inventor, David
Jagger.(elemental norms of courtesy)
Can someone tell me if the game is open?, and if it is the case, who am I
playing with?. If I am playing, what have I to do for make moves?. My main
e-mail can be found here in the CVP, I'm registered member, but
'comments and rating' can be used too for a response.

Tony Quintanilla wrote on Tue, Aug 26, 2003 05:38 PM UTC:
Your game is not in the Waiting Room, so someone seems to have accepted it,
but you should have gotten an e-mail with notifying you of the acceptance.

🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Wed, Aug 27, 2003 12:20 AM UTC:
I removed the Asteryx Chess invitation from the Waiting Room, because it
was not an open invitation. It was not an open invitation with priority to
the inventor. It simply wasn't open at all. David Jagger is the only
person who can accept this invitation. 

There was a bug in the script that let you call an invitation open even
when it was not. I removed this bug, and to make sure your invitation did
not confuse anyone as to the purpose of the Waiting Room, I removed it
from there. In the future, the PBM will not let you call an invitation
open unless you identify your opponent with an email address. Whenever you
use a Userid, it is directed to that person only, and it is not open.

You should also know that selecting an open invitation affects the wording
of the invitation. In fact, this is all it was originally intended to do.
So the text in the email looked like this:

Roberto Lavieri issues an open inviatation [sic] to play Asteryx Chess on
the web-based PBM server at Play.Chessvariants.com. This invitation will
last until someone accepts it. To play Asteryx Chess with Roberto Lavieri,
follow this link: 

So, I expect that David Jagger did not understand that the invitation was
directed to him specifically. Perhaps you should email him and tell him
that it was.

Roberto Lavieri wrote on Wed, Aug 27, 2003 02:37 AM UTC:
Yes, My intention was to extend an open invitation, but with priority to
the author of the game. I don´t know if it is easy or not this option can
be available in the PBM system without some possible confusion, as in my
case, and in an more easy way. Sometimes a player would be unable to have
in hand the e-mail adress of a person thought as prioritary. I suggest
other improvement, I think it is not difficult to identify the contenders
in the logs (may be pseudonimous names or the identification used by the
persons that are playing). When you open a log as spectator, no names
appears, if it is good or not depends, but in my case I have an
uncomfortable sempsation that nobody real is playing the game...

Tony Quintanilla wrote on Wed, Aug 27, 2003 04:09 AM UTC:
The names of the players appear in the below the board display in the
fields, 'White' and 'Black'.

🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Wed, Aug 27, 2003 04:21 AM UTC:
An invitation should not be open if it is directed to an individual. When
you extend someone a personal invitation, it should not be up for grabs to
the first person who comes along. This would be like going to your wedding
and marrying the first woman who comes up to the altar instead of your
intended bride. It's not quite as extreme, but it is the same kind of
faux pas. If you do offer a personal invitation that doesn't get
accepted, you may delete it and extend a new invitation. To delete an
invitation, you delete its log. Go to an url like this:

/play/pbm/play.php?game=$game&log=$log&userid=$userid&submit=Delete

Replace each of the variable names with the appropriate value for your
log, enter your password where you are prompted for it, then click the
'Delete' button.

As Tony already mentioned, usernames are already showing up in View mode.
I added this on your suggestion shortly before Tony mentioned it.

Roberto Lavieri wrote on Thu, Aug 28, 2003 06:54 PM UTC:
That is not the idea, An 'open invitation' with priority should mean that
if (and only if) the prioritary person rejects the invitation, then the
invitation can be considered open. O.K., this is equivalent to extend a
new invitation, only there is some extra work, so no more discussion on
this topic for the moment.
Deleting logs?. I think it should be done in an easiest way... But I am
not very critic about this, PBM system, as concept, is great; many
improvements may come in the future, surely.

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