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Enhanced Courier Chess. Courier Chess with the weaker pieces enhanced.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Greg Strong wrote on Sat, Mar 4, 2023 01:44 AM UTC in reply to David Paulowich from Fri Mar 3 09:57 PM:

Pawn = 1, Woody Rook (WD) = 3, Knight = 3, Elephant (FA) = 3.25, Courier = 3.50, Man (FW) = 3.50, Rook = 5.50 and Gryphon = 8 points

I think this is a reasonable valuation.  The biggest difference I'd have is that I'd put the Gryphon at at least 9, and with an endgame value of 10.  His mobility goes up significantly as the board clears out becuase the "choke points" that block the double paths are more likely to be empty.  But even more importantly, in true endgame, the ability to two full ranks or files is deadly.  The threat is always there.

Knight and Modern Elephant (FA) may be a touch high (quarter pawn maybe) but wtihin the margin of uncertainty at this point.  I think the WD would go up in endgame due to his king interdiction ability.  The FA may go down in late endgame if the colorbinding becomes a problem.  And the Man at 3.5 is almost certainly at least a little high. I'd say 3 and maybe 3.25 in endgame.  Queen of 10 seems right on.  Rook of 5.5 is also what I use, but with an endgame value of 6.  (When the board truly clears out, the Rooks & Gryphins will dominate.)

 


David Paulowich wrote on Fri, Mar 3, 2023 09:57 PM UTC:Good ★★★★

Great idea to replace the Ferz with the Gryphon! This piece rarely gets a chance to dominate an "old fashioned game". The "Griffon" is actually one of the weaker pieces in Mark Hedden's Ganymede Chess . I offer some piece values for the 12x8 board, chosen primarily for simplicity:

Pawn = 1, Woody Rook (WD) = 3, Knight = 3, Elephant (FA) = 3.25, Courier = 3.50, Man (FW) = 3.50, Rook = 5.50 and Gryphon = 8 points.

Incidentally I value the Queen at ten points, the same as R+B+P. Ralph Betza once calculated the Gryphon's worth by multiplying the value of a Rook by 1.46 in Bent Riders circa 2002.


💡📝Daniel Zacharias wrote on Tue, Sep 13, 2022 01:45 AM UTC:

I added a link to play in the notes. It's good to see some interest in this!


Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on Mon, Sep 5, 2022 02:34 PM UTC in reply to Greg Strong from Sun Sep 4 08:57 PM:

Thank you. I couldn't see it.


Greg Strong wrote on Sun, Sep 4, 2022 08:57 PM UTC in reply to Jean-Louis Cazaux from 12:06 PM:

It already is: https://www.chessvariants.com/play/enhanced-courier-chess


Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on Sun, Sep 4, 2022 12:06 PM UTC:

I hope this game will be coded to be played on Game Courier with enforced rules in next future


Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on Mon, Aug 29, 2022 02:41 PM UTC:Good ★★★★

Should play well, it's nice to see you didn't 'overpower' it.


Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on Thu, Aug 25, 2022 01:07 PM UTC:

Looks nice and smart


fire_vexil wrote on Thu, Aug 25, 2022 01:36 AM UTC:

I now agree with the given set-up.


Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on Tue, Jul 12, 2022 08:03 PM UTC in reply to FireVexil from 03:51 AM:

I wouldn't switch courier and knight. The charm is to respect the historical setup of Courier chess. That position for the knight, next to the rook is not unusual to my eyes.


FireVexil wrote on Tue, Jul 12, 2022 03:51 AM UTC:

Interesting! Creative! Insightful! I do have one small thought: would you consider transposing the courier and the knight? The knight would then be in its usual position, where expert players use it to contest the center and protect the king and queen. The bishop, a long-distance runner, would probably do just as well near the edge.


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