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The birth of 3 new variants- part 3 : Grand Apothecary Chess Classic[Subject Thread] [Add Response]
Aurelian Florea wrote on Thu, Oct 22, 2020 01:28 AM UTC:
files=12 ranks=14 symmetry=none holdingsType=1 promoZone=4 promoChoice=!P!X*C*M*N*B*E*R2*J2*Y2*H2*F2*D3*U3*A3*Z3*Q3 graphicsDir=../graphics.dir/alfaerie/ whitePrefix=w blackPrefix=b graphicsType=gif squareSize=54 hole::::a1-l1,,a14-l14 pawn:P:mfW*fceF:pawn:b4,c4,d4,e4,f4,g4,h4,i4,j4,k4,,b11,c11,d11,e11,f11,g11,h11,i11,j11,k11 berolina:X:mfF*fceW:berolinapawn:a4,l4,,a11,l11 king:K:KisO3isO4isjO2isjO3:king:g2,,g13 rook::::a3,b2,k2,l3,,a12,b13,k13,l12:1 cannon:C:mRcpR:cannon:a2,l2,,a13,l13 knightrider:Y:NN:nightrider:c2,j2,,c13,j13 mameluk:M:WL:camel:e3,h3,,e12,h12:1 joker:J:fI:fool:e1,h1,,e14,h14 falcon:F:afafafsKafsafafKafafraflKafaflafrKafraflafKaflafrafK:bird:b3,k3,,b12,k12 knight:N:NmZ:knight:c3,j3,,c12,j12:1 bishop::::d3,i3,,d12,i12 caliph:H:BL:chancellor1:f1,g1,,f14,g14 siege elephant:E:FAH:elephant:f3,g3,,f12,g12 queen::::f2,,f13:1 dragon:D:FyafsF:dragon:h2,,h13 unicorn:U:BNN:unicorn:e2,,e13 anka:A:FR2afyasfW:bird2:d2,,d13 tiger:Z:WB3afafyasfF:tiger:i2,,i13 symmetry=mirror shuffle=:F:N:B:M:E,QDUAZ maxPromote=2 royal=3
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Aurelian Florea wrote on Sun, Dec 6, 2020 09:29 AM UTC:

Hello,

I am in the process of creating three larger version of apothecary chess. This is one of them - apothecary chess classic.

The purpose of this comment is to get help from the community naming and drawing the pieces.

In the previous comment on this thread I have made a interactive diagram with some preliminary names and pictures from what I could find. They are not very good so do not mind them to much.

In the following I'll name the properties of the new pieces and I expect from who may help a name and a description for the picture.

A piece that moves 3 squares like a bishop and may stop here or in the intermediate squares and continues like a rook toward outside. And it may also step like a wazir.

A pieces that moves 2 squares like a rook and may stop here or in the intermediate square and then toward outside like a bishop. And it may also step like a ferz.


Zhedric Meneses wrote on Sun, Dec 6, 2020 11:56 AM UTC in reply to Aurelian Florea from 09:29 AM:

I'll just call them Gryphon and Aanca at this point


Aurelian Florea wrote on Sun, Dec 6, 2020 02:01 PM UTC in reply to Zhedric Meneses from 11:56 AM:

There already is a gryphon in this game. Aanca spelled "Anka" it is so far my proposition in the other game with bent riders. Thanks for your input Zhedric!


Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on Sun, Dec 6, 2020 07:40 PM UTC:

What do you call an Aanca or an Anka? I can't see what you are talking about


Aurelian Florea wrote on Mon, Dec 7, 2020 08:50 AM UTC:

Jean-Louis, acording to wikipedia Anqa or Anka is a Arabian mythical bird : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anqa,

I'm provisionally using the name for a piece that moves 2 squares like a rook, may stop here or in the intermediate square, and then towards outside like a bishop. It may also move like a ferz (In an attempt to make it as strong as a queen. Thanks for your interest.


Aurelian Florea wrote on Mon, Dec 7, 2020 11:50 AM UTC:

@HG, How do I add extra images to the diagram designer?


H. G. Muller wrote on Mon, Dec 7, 2020 11:57 AM UTC in reply to Aurelian Florea from 11:50 AM:

You mean the Interactive Diagram?

That takes all its images from the same directory, which you can specify through graphicsDir=... amongst the parameters. If you cannot create files in that directory, the only option is to copy all the files you need from there to a directory of your own, where you can create files, and then put the extra images there too.


Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on Mon, Dec 7, 2020 09:52 PM UTC in reply to Aurelian Florea from 08:50 AM:

Too bad Aurelian you don't want to change your mind. Anka is the word used in Spanish for the Gryphon. Is like if you call a Bishop, a Torre. You can call your piece otherwise, a Simurgh or anything, why a Anka/Anqa/Aanca? Check that page: http://history.chess.free.fr/acedrex.htm


Aurelian Florea wrote on Tue, Dec 8, 2020 06:27 AM UTC in reply to Jean-Louis Cazaux from Mon Dec 7 09:52 PM:

Ok,Jean-Louis!


Aurelian Florea wrote on Tue, Dec 8, 2020 07:02 AM UTC in reply to Jean-Louis Cazaux from Mon Dec 7 09:52 PM:

I'm wondering though why can't the creature Anqa be used in a proper way as described by history and you don't like it to be used at all?


Erik Lerouge wrote on Tue, Dec 8, 2020 09:04 AM UTC:

And what about Firebird and Thunderbird for bent-riders? With these you keep the mythical bird theme for bent-riders (even if they aren't from the same cultural origin: the Firebird is from slavic folklore, the Thunderbird from North American idigenous culture). And, even if they have been certainly used for fairy pieces in recent variants, these names are not already used in a historical game, a fortiori for the original naming of a well-known fairy piece (Aanca-Gryphon).


Zhedric Meneses wrote on Tue, Dec 8, 2020 11:16 AM UTC:

While we're on the topic of mythical creatures, I wonder how many of them appeared in Chess Variants

I only know there's Unicorn, Dragon(?), Gryphon/Griffon, Aanca/Anqa, Kirin, and Phoenix


Aurelian Florea wrote on Sat, Dec 19, 2020 07:33 AM UTC in reply to Erik Lerouge from Tue Dec 8 09:04 AM:

Thunderbird and Firebird then!


Aurelian Florea wrote on Sat, Dec 19, 2020 02:32 PM UTC:

Which images should I use for the Thunderbird and the Firebird. Can anyone help me with drawing and uploading the pictures as I don't have any skills with the draw part and I do not have upload rights?


H. G. Muller wrote on Sat, Dec 19, 2020 02:35 PM UTC:

I thought everyone that has posted an article can upload graphics files?


Greg Strong wrote on Sat, Dec 19, 2020 03:08 PM UTC:

Everyone can upload graphics, but incorporating them into a GС piece set requires an editor.


H. G. Muller wrote on Sat, Dec 19, 2020 03:23 PM UTC:

We really must do something about that. I don't see any reason why there couldn't be a user-defined mapping between piece labels and graphics URLs.


Aurelian Florea wrote on Sat, Dec 19, 2020 03:23 PM UTC in reply to Greg Strong from 03:08 PM:

Everyone can upload graphics, but incorporating them into a GС piece set requires an editor.

1. I don't see where can I upload graphics.

2. I'd also like them to enter in a directory so that it can be used by the interactive diagram.


Greg Strong wrote on Sat, Dec 19, 2020 03:54 PM UTC in reply to Aurelian Florea from 03:23 PM:

I don't see where can I upload graphics.

Go to the page for one of your games and select 'Upload or Manage Files' from the black box towards the bottom.

I'd also like them to enter in a directory so that it can be used by the interactive diagram.

I will have to do that for you.  You can only upload to the membergraphics folder.

I might be able to help you make graphics but my availability is limited since I'm in the process of moving right now.  Any new graphics should be made in SVG (vector graphics) format, not a bitmap format.  Inkscape is the free program typically used for this.


Aurelian Florea wrote on Sat, Dec 19, 2020 04:07 PM UTC in reply to Greg Strong from 03:54 PM:

I'll try inkscape on my own, for now. I have to learn to do this one day, anyway!


Aurelian Florea wrote on Sat, Dec 19, 2020 04:42 PM UTC:

Any ideas on how a Thunderbird and a Firebird should look like?


Aurelian Florea wrote on Mon, Dec 21, 2020 12:57 PM UTC:

Is it permited to make draws that are more colored than white and blue (in allfaerie). I want to create the firebird with a fire shadow on it's back. That shoul be red, or cherry for black and a lighter red for white. Something similar I'd like to do do to the thunderbeard.


Greg Strong wrote on Mon, Dec 21, 2020 01:51 PM UTC:

Yes, that is possible.

You only need to make white pieces and the white should be #f9f9f9. From this we'll render the white and blue pieces in PNG.


Aurelian Florea wrote on Tue, Dec 22, 2020 08:57 AM UTC in reply to Greg Strong from Mon Dec 21 01:51 PM:

I could not draw the pieces in question (Thunderbird and Firebird) so if someone is willing to help me I'd be extremely grateful.


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